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What Would Electronic Music Be Like Today, if Kraftwerk Hadn’t Popped? (Questions from my Electronic Music Students)

December 16th 2023  || by  || Add Reply

I get a fair amount of questions from the students in my UEMP (Ultimate Electronic Music Production) course each year. Often these are questions about specific genres or production approaches or synths. This Fall, though, I got some bigger-picture ones, so why not share a couple of the answers here.

Q:  “Would it be possible to create another branch on the tree [of origins of electronic music] in our modern world of electronic music?”

A:  Technically and in theory everything is possible. Practically, quite difficult; it’s difficult to not be fundamentally influenced by what we already know. I believe a completely new, thick branch (directly growing out of the double-trunk of the Electronic Music Tree rooted in France and Germany) will / can only be grown by a non-musician artist, from another discipline, like painting, sculpture, dance or poetry. One could argue that Schaeffer, Stockhausen, etc. made significant progress thank to their not-purely-musical interests. The less someone is exposed to music, the more likely they won’t be influenced by the genres already out there (any existing “branches”), especially the 1950s-70s roots, and can think artistically but freely. The only time the origins of an entirely new direction in electronic music was not tied to the 70s and was a musical in its source (Jamaica), was Jungle (then Drum & Bass) in the early ’90s.  The unrelated components being in the right time and place and actually cross-influencing one another – such coincidental cultural collaborations are uncommon in today’s too-multinational world. Though, maybe we could still give a Model D and a zoom recorder to the indigenous tribes of the Amazon who live far away from modern civilizations, collaborate with them and see what comes out of it…

At the same time, a new smaller branch (a branch growing out of a large branch of the tree) might come from a musically-oriented (trained or not) person in a different musical environment (possibly not even electronic music). Again, the less they know about electronic music, the less likely they will be effected by what has existed before them, thus, the more likely they will create something uninfluenced by existing electronic music. Still, it’s likely that we will be able to trance the results back to one of the main trunks of the tree (i.e. GRM, BBC, JMJ, Kraftwek, Vangelis, Tomita, Eno, etc.).

Like I often say in the beginning of UEMP semesters: the technology to create something groundbreaking and original intentionally break has been in front of us, for many years. Powerful computers and more free plugins that one could explore in a lifetime are now in our pockets. Affordable technology to write the music of the future is reality, even for the average college student. But you have to fight the part of your DNA that always makes you create music similarly to the way you normally create and listen. Producing Musique concrète has the ability to take you very far from all that…  listen to your Musique concrète work a half year later and you might be surprised by what you had created. An inspiring point to start from.

Q: “If Kraftwerk hadn’t popped when they did, how does Julius believe things would have turned out, since he was exposed there?”
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Q: If Kraftwerk never existed, where do you think electronic music would be today? Would it be at a previous point on the electronic music timeline or would it have gone in a completely different direction?

A: Well, I’m not that old to have been there… I was a small kid playing the piano in the 80s when Kraftwerk had been already around for a decade and well-known in Europe… so their influence on most everything-in-4/4 in electronic music was a done deal by then. But I’ll take a stab at hypothesizing about this fascinating proposition.

It is truly interesting to think about what would have happened to electronic music if Krafwerk’s Autobahn wouldn’t have received much attention, or hadn’t even been released… or if Ralf und Florian wouldn’t have met or even existed. Well, let’s break this down based on the components that Kraftwerk combined into a pioneering new direction in electronic music:

  • The 4/4 time signature would have become popular in electronic music in some fashion anyway, since it was the middle ages’ 2/4 folk dance rhythms then the ’60s disco’s straightforward patterns that evolved into 4/4 dance-able rhythms – the point being dance-able – in other genres as well.
  • Sequenced, quantized basslines and arps would have been sooner or later migrated from Jarre’s and Schultze’s kitchen to other, more rhythm-based genres. Kraftwerk was inspired by the persistent, “quantized” action of mechanical machines, but certainly not the only one who got inspiration from heavy industries.
  • Vocoders were in use even before Kraftwerk, although without the band and its influence on others (e.g. YMO, Moroder), vocoders might have actually disappeared earlier.
  • Minimalism in itself was around in painting, sculpture, architecture, film-making, etc. before the 1970s (let alone the concept of wabi-sabi from centuries before). Terry Riley was already active before Kraftwerk and other musical creators of the ’70s were also making very different type of music on minimalist principles (e.g. Brian Eno’s ambient).
  • The idea of “robots” making music…  now this was a big one. It was big because this concept was able to connect the minimal aesthetic with most people, who were curious about the future. And when I say people, I mean nearly everyone – just think about all the major sci-fi movie franchises that originated in the 70s. Shortly after the Moon landing and with portable computers starting to appear, it was the perfect timing for everyone to entertain the idea “The Future is Now”.  Thank to people’s curiosity about robots and robot-like musicians, unlike “untouchable” high-artists and abstract minimalists, Kraftwerk was able to bring minimalism into the mainstream. This is the aspect without which I’m not sure if the band’s music would have had the same enormous influence on popular electronic music. And without that, the genres that later evolved (and still evolve) from Kraftwerk’s aesthetic (first and foremost techno and its derivatives) might exist only as minor, underground sub-genres these days.
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Yellow Magic Orchestra was, self-admittedly, the Japanese version of the German robots. What if these gentle “robots” infused in jazz chords would have broken into the mainstream before Kraftwerk, and Dusseldorf would have only remained a national treasure?

I believe that without Kraftwerk, the precision and angular German-ness might be present only in a smaller proportion in electronic music. Four-on-the-floor wouldn’t automatically mean that it’s quantized kicks on downbeats, sequenced basslines wouldn’t be necessarily repeated as 1/8th or 1/16th notes or as octave-alternating straightforward sequences, bass lines wouldn’t predominantly have short decay and very short-release VCA envelopes – as they often do today. In other words, a higher proportion of electronic music would be less “tight”, and maybe more… …French.  Maybe softer, likely more textural, probably groovy and rhythmically varied yet easily dance-able genres would be the default “EDM”. That is, at least until 1990 and DnB in the U.K. and later in 2010 Skrillex bringing rhythm-based electronic music into the U.S. mainstream. (But wait, would DnB have been the same without the counter-culture role it had in Eurodance times? And, would Skrillex have made the same debut album in 2010 without the influence of Kraftwerk-and-techno on baby Sonny during the 1990s?  This is the paradox of synthception…  noone knows…  but likely, he’d be shredding metal today.)

In any case, while Germany’s influence was successfully pushed back in other areas during the 20th Century, they might have unknowingly won the long-term cultural influence on electronic music. (And Dusseldorf’s direction was relatable by many, far more than Berlin’s high art.) Their sharp character has influenced other areas as well; just think about cars. The passionate and adventurous Italians’ slogans are “Only those who dare, truly live – We are the Competition.” (Ferrari), and “Expect the Unexpected” (Lamborghini). Meanwhile, BMW’s slogan since WW2 has been “The Ultimate Driving Machine” (despite of this being a enormous lie). The automotive world could have been as graceful without the past 30 years’ German cars as the world of modern Japanese robots is without German robots in it.

I truly love the music of Kraftwerk and I’m glad that it got popular. Though looking at their influence today, maybe too popular?

An even more interesting conundrum is the role of counter-culture. Let’s say, if without Kraftwerk, electronic music would have evolved to be less quantized and less “raw” during the past 5 decades, would various types of non-electronic music have tried to counteract it less? With Disco Demolition Night never taking place, Afrika Bambaataa not having anything to steal, the Pet Shop Boys playing bass on bass guitar, and DJs having to know at least a little bit about harmonies, electronic music skeptics haters would have had to look for different targets… or just chill and make even more rock and pop. If a softer, more romantic form of electronic music had been the norm throughout the 1980s and ’90s, would have a different set of genres become more minimal, tight, quantized, aggressive by now? Or would we have reached the current aesthetic of block-y, rigid on/off notes in electronic music anyway, given the black-or-white binarity that’s already woven into so many areas of our overly-practical life today? This is as big of a philosophical question as you can expect to face when you hypothetically re-write the history of electronic music…  so I’d rather look for the answers from Nietzsche Descartes.

Where is the Music?

September 11th 2022  || by  || Add Reply

Did the covid pandemic help to produce more or better, fresher music?

Since the 2020 onset of the pandemic, I had to change aspects of my lifestyle and many plans — like most everyone else.  Although my 2020/21 music performances had to be canceled and I even moved my lectures online, I’ve had the opportunity to catch up on giving talks, interview and join panels during the past couple of years. The topics ranged from music production, sound synthesis, performance technology to the culture of music and sound, fan events, directions in film scoring and even representing my anti-AI principles at a prestigious audio panel for the Audio Engineering Society.

It’s great to talk at industry events and panels, but what I enjoy about “prosumer” audiences, up and coming music people, is their non-pretentious huger for knowledge and creatively interesting questions. A topic I spoke about for a small and intimate audience at the Silicon Valley Music Production Summit last year is a good example of how to avoid the same old formula questions and talk about some fresh ideas, uncensored by cultural expectations. Its high point was my compositional justification for considering a recent pop tune “better music” than one of Mozart’s well-known works.

Unlike the rest of the music-making community, I did not use the unexpectedly available home-bound time to “write a song a day”. I did not jump on fb/IG to offer music production workshops to the masses, even though, suddenly every other human with no real production experience became a “music producer” in 2020… Nor did I purchase production gear to upgrade my studio to “perfect my sound” during the downtime – apparently, everyone else did, as Sweetwater closed a year of record profits. I didn’t even finish my long-long due forgotten future: W2 album.

What I did instead was the opposite: I listened. let me explain.

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“I had nothinig else to do under the lockdown, so I made tracks… lots of new tracks! I got many clicks so now I’m teaching other producers how to produce music… lots of it!”

Do we really need a few million new tracks every day?

It’s great that people now have very affordable tools to create music – the process should be certainly available for all to enjoy. But distributing all the “tracks” that most anyone now who knows how to use a computer can “produce” overnight, might not be what humanity needs. See, the problem is not the quantity, but the quality of the great majority of that huge quantity. Placing technology first and music second unsurprisingly results in very similar output from a diverse range of people, which usually lack authenticity and originality. I consider production mainly as packaging for musical ideas. Starting with the packaging (and even doing that mainly by copying the “experts” of packaging) will unlikely allow for injecting great content into the finished package after the fact. And, you know what tons of empty packaging is… trash. To me, this is a simple equation: quality and quantity are diametrically opposed concepts.

Lots of good music takes time

On top of the quantity issue, some things just take time; no pandemic can force us, at at least not directly, to be more productive at the same quality standards. I’m not questioning the production quality of a high-output “producer” (although with continuous production, dilution is bound to happen). Nor am I suggesting that good work has to take years. What I am suggesting is a balance between absorbing and expressing, like a good conversation. There must be some kind of emotional input in order for us to create an emotional output. The input can be a feeling, an event, a situation, whatever effects us. The output is what we express in our own voice, whether that be through music, painting or another art form. Processing too many emotions too quickly may simply not allow us to fully and deeply absorb them. Similarly, we can’t expect ourselves to create interesting content if we don’t have enough emotional input to begin with. Forcing this natural process of absorption-expression for the sake of higher productivity will inevitably produce more but shallower art.

I for sure would not be opposed to hearing fewer new releases but fresher, more original music. I well remember attending a platinum producers’ panel at a major audio convention. After talking about the old vs new in music production techniques for an hour, one of the more seasoned producers ended the panel with the rhetorical question: “But where is the music today!?”.

That was in 2012. Now, ten years later, the question is more relevant than ever.

 

The Saddest Moment in the World of Electronic Music: Vangelis

May 19th 2022  || by  || Add Reply

As a major proponent of individuality and as someone who strives for maximum originality, I rarely speak about my influences. It’s virtually impossible for any composer, musician, performer to not be influenced, consciously or subconsciously, by others who came before them. Often, we don’t talk about them openly, simply to minimize the unnecessary comparisons between their and our work – but they’re there. I owe so much to the exceptional composer, the incomparable Vangelis, on so many levels, that I can only feel right if I express my deepest appreciation for him, his music, and share my sadness about his passing in a tribute on these pages.

Vangelis - a Tribute by Composer Julius Dobos


Vangelis
was my biggest influence as a composer and as a human, for 40+ years. I would not be where I am as a composer, if it wasn’t for the effect of his music on me as a child – and ever since. I vividly remember listening to the full Chariots of Fire album in headphones when going to bed, before I could reach the pedals of my piano. I was mesmerized by his music, the sounds, the feel and emotions that the long track on side 2 evoked; it effected me not only musically and emotionally, but in ways that actually shaped who I became as a person. In later years, after gaining experience through my own album releases and scores, discovering Vangelis’ statements about the music industry, which I fully shared, his views on technology, people, art, expression, unobtrusiveness, resonated with me as much as his music.

There are too many personal and intimate stories throughout my life to share that connected me, sometimes miraculously coincidentally, to him through his music. Just a couple of weeks ago I was on the phone with his best synthesist, reminiscing about his wonderful ways with people…   I am lecturing about his enormously influential work in my Ultimate Electronic Music course at USV in just a couple of weeks – as I do every year…  he’s been a deep part of my world for as long as I can remember music. More than to any other creator of honest music, I wish I had had the opportunity to express my gratitude to him in person.

The world has gotten poorer this week – and I mean this literally. He has created a new universe of music, or as he would say, he presented the music of the universe to us.

His work stops here, even though his music lives on. While he inspired so many, it is impossible to genuinely come even close to his musical expression. However, his legacy reaches far beyond music. The philosophies he shared with the world, and not just about music but about ourselves as humans, are like seeds. Seeds of thoughts, approaches, attitudes that he had planted and grew into a lush forest of musical dimension of his own. Although his list of his albums, scores, performances don’t expand any longer, molecules of these seeds have become part of the genetics of art, philosophy, culture, and musical expression, spreading all over the world through true creativity. And for composers, some of these powerful molecules are now part of our own genes, ensuring that the legacy of Vangelis continues to spread wider and farther as we create new music.

Please join me in cherishing Vangelis’ impact on our world, the human culture, and celebrate his new journey beyond our existence with Procession from his album, The City.

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We vs RNA

July 18th 2020  || by  || Add Reply

Throughout history, the solution to wars have been either discussion or aggression. This time around neither works; we can’t easily destroy nor reason with covid. It’s not unlike an invading alien species that only lives in the dimension of now.

So many are stuck at home and making music these days… do we need to hear more cliches? Maybe there are some new gems among all those duplicates? But then again, if one has some gems in them, do they have to be stuck at home to express them?

ff: W2 is in the making, still.  The virus has no effect on it, whatsoever. Time does.

Please honor the memory of those who didn’t survive the pandemic despite of their intelligent efforts. Ignore the government propaganda, the false appearance of the economy – and please wear your masks. Let’s get ready for the crescendo.

Analog vs. Digital Synthesizers – Part 3: The New Wave of Wavetables

January 19th 2020  || by  || Add Reply

Two years ago, already being fed up with the then-16 year long trend of everyone re-releasing classic analog synths, I predicted a new trend of digital hardware machines, and in particular, the return of wavetable synthesis, as the next phase of idea-recycling.  It is now reality.

Synthesis revival in the 21st Century: New Analogs

In 2002, Robert Moog released the Moog Voyager, a recreation of his famous original, the Minimoog (Model D). It was, and is, a fantastic instrument, which did more than just bringing back the classic sound with a familiar layout: it added more oscillator stability, more performance control, more convenience and more instantaneous feedback for the player. What most don’t realize is that it was the Voyager that started a revival of analog synths, which I call “new analogs”, on a larger scale, turning the electronic music instrument industry upside down (or rather, downside up), ultimately undeniably effecting the culture of electronic music.

Bob Moog was working out of passion. Whether the timing of the Voyager release was a proper celebration of him reclaiming his company’s name and kicking off a new era of Moog Music, or it was responding to a rapidly growing need for true analog sound, it had a profound effect on the electronic musical instrument industry. Why transition back to analog from the late ’90s-early 2000s super-capable and convenient VA (virtual analog) gear? On one hand, the retro aesthetic started coming back in areas outside of music: fashion, dance, photography. The sounds of virtual analogs were fat, warm, diverse, however very precise and therefore not retro in any way. Bands started using classic analog synths – even bringing them on the stage. Releases with the ’80s retro aesthetic, but offering a new and original sound (such as Ladytron’s 604, to mention one of the most brilliant albums) got the attention of electronic music fans and producers alike. Unstable, dirty-sounding leads and basses starting to become cool again, at least in various local scenes, primarily in the UK and in some parts of Europe. At the same time, used prices of vintage synths have already reached questionably reasonable levels on eBay – it has become a dream (and a perceived way to reach originality) for many to own a vintage MS-20, Model D or Prophet 5.

While Moog wasn’t the first one to release a new analog (for example, Studio Electronics has never stopped since the early ’90s), the visibility and prestige of the Moog name signaled to other brands: new analog is the best of both words: it is real, stable and convenient. Some were fast to follow, some already had products that the Voyager justified putting more promotion behind. Some lagged and took a decade to come out with new analog models. Brand new companies were launched exclusively making new analog synthesizers.

Synthesizers of the 2010’s: New Analogs in New Markets

Fast-forward a decade. Electronic music steps out of the underground in the United States; EDM is suddenly on mainstream platforms and on the charts, everyone wants to incorporate the electronic sound. Manufacturers and distributors are happy: a brand new market opens up for them, in the land of hobby musicians with disposable income, where technology is cheap, “money buys creativity” is a rarely-questioned belief, and where the role of tech in culture is high: the United States.

Around the middle of the decade, mainstream bands proudly use analog synths again, the dubstep phase passes by – fortunately relatively quickly, like a nightmare that screams “modern electronic music equals aggressive sounds (and who cares about harmony)”. After the pixel-dust of un-musicality settles, day-dreaming Gen X musicians (not in small part thank to Vaporwave) bring back the sound of the ’80s. First it’s cool, and then, as it usually happens with anything that can be sold based on nostalgia to two generations, it becomes commonplace; television shows promote the retro aesthetic: synthwave takes off. The music instrument industry is now ecstatic: modular synths are on the rise, instrument product catalogs now offer more new analog synths than ever before in history (and actually more analogs than digital synths). Why? Because “real synthwave is supposed to be real analog” – so they say. So naturally, everybody needs a 303 synth – and not just any synth, but an analog one! Because they are “better than anything digital” (so are the newcomers told). Musical sound design becomes a must-do for anyone who wants to be taken even semi-seriously; using preset sounds starts to become a sin in the electronic music scene (not surprisingly also in the US, where getting lost in the technical wizardry typically wins over emotional content anyway, and in this rare case, it wins even over convenience).

So what’s wrong with this picture? It’s a trend, driven by technology and instrument marketing, celebrating the idea of re-production of the familiar past, rather than by originality and the celebration of creation (except for the modular world, where, for the most part, the truly original and truly unlistenable stuff happens). Ironically, despite of the overly technology-focused approach, almost all analogs use subtractive synthesis!  It’s not hard to put the two together: one of the most limited synthesis methods is now heavily influencing where electronic music is going in 2010, after 70 years of history! And, America being the very best when it comes to exporting anything that’s well wrapped in trends, the changes spread worldwide. But who cares, manufacturers are flooding the new markets with old recipes in shiny packages (even drawing the respect of self-nominated “synth fans”).

New Wave of the 2020s – Wavetable Synths

During the second half of 2010s, astonishingly boring re-releases of classics and degenerated clones of clones promise new sonic worlds, while in reality, they rarely add a feature or two to Robert Moog’s 1968 concept. Manufacturers are making a killing with re-releases – until Behringer enters the game and spells death to an era, with shameless brand-stealing, unoriginal recreations and plastic heaven.

Thinking about it, maybe I should like Behringer after all. With their business model now they are unknowingly forcing the rest of the industry (which is unable to compete with such low prices) to move onto new trends. In 2018 I said: “analog has been the new cool thing in electronic music production for all too long now; this drawn-out phase of telling sheep users [referring to the mass mentality of easy-to-influence tech-focused buyers] that analog is the “best” will be soon replaced by digital, again; probably wavetables”.  I doubted that any influential player in the industry would dare to release products with a new type of synthesis, but bringing back a short but often-praised era of wavetables seemed like an easy to promote contrast, therefore a less risky option. Just by looking at the used price trends of PPGs, Waldorf (Micro)waves, Wavestations and Fizmos, and the relatively short attention that they enjoyed while romplers and VAs took over, one could see how the desire for something lesser known was bound to create a new trend. It took the industry two years to do it – with the usual exception of pioneering Waldorf, who not only moved fast with the Quantum, but had a great advantage in wavetable design to begin with.

Wavetables, Wavescanning – Already Dripping from Popularity

Wavetables have always been with us, integrated into digital synths like the Virus TI and plugins NI Massive, Serum and more recently Arturia’s Pigments. Some companies ventured into augmenting their analog synths with a wavetable osc option like DSI’s Prophet 3 with its scannable wavetable source, or adding wavetables as an extension to their software packages, like Ableton 10’s Wavetable plugin. (Again, kudos to Arturia for jumping ahead of the trends with no history in wavetables, but instead of copying Waldorf, giving birth to an original concept, the Microfreak). In the months before the 2020 NAMM Show, no less than five companies suddenly introduced their dedicated wavetable synths to the masses: Modal’s Argon8, Softube’s Parallels, Udo’s Super 6, the ASM Hydrasynth, and of course, Korg’s Wavestate. Why do we need to recycle old sound synthesis concepts? Actually, why do we need trends in instrument design at all?

Will manufacturers and distributors try to convince everyone now that wavetable synthesis is the best? Will they market them with the “most unique” and “most flexible” message? They already kind of do. But, who cares. Talking with Brian Transeau (aka BT, who actually well understands the power of inner ideas) yesterday I got the impression that almost noone seems to mind the fact that manufacturers are dictating the trends now, and thus, heavily influencing the styles and trends in (electronic) music. I, for one, do mind. Even as a sound synthesist who’s been preaching about the importance of sound design for 25 years, I wish true creativity that originates from new experiences and unique concepts would primarily influence music, and synth players would use whatever technology as a tool of expression once again, not the other way around. What BT and I agreed on was that those of us who want to express ideas free from industry trends, will always find the tools to convey such ideas with authenticity. Just like we always did when we needed them, regardless of the trends in technology. But it’s not so easy to ignore the heavy marketing and influence of trendy new instrument design by those who are new to electronic music.

So, dear fans of electronic music: get ready for the new wave of wavetables, and with that, a lot of wavetable music hits. Korg has done its part to add easy-to-impress presets in the Wavestate (I bet Dr. Luke pre-ordered it or has already put them into a dozen of mainstream pop songs), but come on, Roland, Moog, Yamaha – add those Wavetable OSC buttons quickly… before NI blankets the world with a PPG library and Behringer makes a $199 Prophet VS clone! Then you all have to recycle something else and tell us what’s the new cool in music. (Additive synths in 2024, anyone?)


A quick summary of my personal impressions of the new wavetable gear:
ASM Hydrasynth: amazing control and expression, easy to set up modulation… I almost bought one. But the more I heard it, the more fake it sounded. That plastic-y, predictable, trying-too-hard-to-impress, too-perfect, too-shiney over-packaged character turned me off and left me quite disappointed.
Modal Argon8: beautifully designed instrument with smooth and rich sound, but not a whole lot of extremes, a held-back character that promises a relatively limited sonic world with not many surprises to explore. I wish it could get more raw, more real.
Korg Wavestate: an impressive and capable preset-machine with so much happening in its sound, that it can be easily a turn-off. It sounds fun since a lot of movement, loops, performances are “printed” into the waveform or use the sequencer: too easy to get sidetracked and more inspiring to play than to create with. Sound designers with tons of time to initialize patches might take its sound elsewhere, but since it’s going to be the most commercially successful synth of 2020 (mark my words!), Wavestate sounds will be showing up in productions all over the world – which is exactly why I’d never want one.
Waldorf Quantum: this is the only one here I personally have not tried yet. What I heard sounded worthy of the Waldorf name, though, even if a bit too silky. I’m personally turned off by the touch-screen display; give me more buttons with direct access to parameters instead.

Final verdict: pick up a Prophet VS or a Microwave for rawness and flexibility.


 

Read the previous and original articles:

Part 2: Analog vs. Digital Synthesizers – Part 2: Soft Synths, Modular Synths, Emulations, Noise Machines

Part 1: Analog vs. Digital Synthesizers – My Take on the Old Debate

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